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#1 Ben

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 02:32 PM

Hello Stargate Community,

We are now considering the prospect of opening Stargate: The Last Stand for development by a group of community developers and staff that wish to continue the game where we left it as a prototype, at the start of Nuclear Dawn.

We have hesitated up until now to do such a thing, as one thing that many things that most people may not have considered is that the Stargate game is as much of a total conversion as any free project can be on the Source engine. Nothing from Half-Life² remains, and therefore, the only people that would be capable of taking on such a task as to maintain and repair the game's flaws will have to be fairly experienced programmers who have already worked with the engine. One of the many unappreciated aspects of the modification is that very fact alone. Much of the code produced behind the scenes of the game were a stepping point for other InterWave products, and so should we do this we will be keeping the project internal and under NDA - unfortunately we cannot simply make it an open source project.

If you have several years programming experience and preferably Source Engine experience on top, then reply to this post listing experience and we will get in touch privately. If there is enough community interest, then we will sort something out as far as a Stargate: The Last Stand community development team is concerned.

We look forward to hearing your responses.
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Posted 18 August 2009 - 02:58 PM

That's great to hear, Ben. IW put a lot of work into SG:TLS, and hopefully there will be some skilled people in the community able to take it over now and improve on it since IW have moved primarily to Nuclear Dawn (which I'm quite looking forward to).

#3 Lane (FlyingMongoose)

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 03:36 PM

Good to know Ben, good luck, maybe I can stop telling people that it won't happen right away soon >.<

If you don't mind me asking;
Who will be managing the project?

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 05:52 PM

Sign me up! or rather, Where do I sign up?

Questions:

1 ) How long will submissions be open for?

2 ) How many people do you think you'd want minimum and maximum to work on the project? 5 people, 10, 100?

3 ) Is there an email address or something we can submit to instead of submitting a mini resume more or less to the public.

4 ) Will you be wanting just coders? or all types of help (mappers/modeling too)

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 06:23 PM

View Postsenseit, on 18 August 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

Sign me up! or rather, Where do I sign up?


View PostBen (MajorC4), on 18 August 2009 - 02:32 PM, said:

If you have several years programming experience and preferably Source Engine experience on top, then reply to this post listing experience and we will get in touch privately.


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Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:27 PM

Sounds intriguing.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:44 AM

View Postsenseit, on 18 August 2009 - 05:52 PM, said:

Sign me up! or rather, Where do I sign up?

Questions:

1 ) How long will submissions be open for?

2 ) How many people do you think you'd want minimum and maximum to work on the project? 5 people, 10, 100?

3 ) Is there an email address or something we can submit to instead of submitting a mini resume more or less to the public.

4 ) Will you be wanting just coders? or all types of help (mappers/modeling too)

1) untill we feel we have enough B)
2) About 2 developers is most important
3) jobs[at]interwavestudios.com
4) Yes all kinds

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:46 PM

View PostMichiel (Viper), on 19 August 2009 - 09:44 AM, said:

1) untill we feel we have enough B)
2) About 2 developers is most important
3) jobs[at]interwavestudios.com
4) Yes all kinds

The main thing guys is that level designers and modellers can add to the game anyway without the administration overhead of a whole team (ie; we can help organise that openly), the key thing is available programmers who have the expertise to comb through the game, fix up the existing bugs and possibly progress to add features as time goes on.
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:03 PM

sounds good, unfortunatly have no coding experience with source etc... wish I did so I could help out more. Keep us updated with whats happening so we know how it is progressing. Thanks for doing this, hopefully it will help the mod gain more players if they know it is being worked on.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:14 PM

Thanks for the response... One last question...

I was trying to get one of my graphic design friends to apply.. Apparently, in the world of graphic design, receiving credit for your work is a big thing. He was wondering if his name will be in the credits for the game if he develops models/maps/etc for the game?

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:34 PM

Are you going to be recruiting play testers to test Stargate: The Last Stand's  community development?
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:39 PM

Lol, i would happily be an official beta tester lol, although i guess we are all beta testers as it is in beta still at the moment.

Quick question, if it is a community development would it still be bound to all the MGM requriements? Thanks.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:07 PM

My guess is that play testers will be looked for once a team is together and when they are closer to another release. From what I've heard, yes, it will still be bound by the MGM requirements.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:19 PM

I'm sorry but anyone can resume the part of conversation because i can't understand it...  B)

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 07:23 PM

If you propose a community to continuate the projet Stargate : The Last Stand, i'm interested.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 03:57 PM

Selmak:

The purpose of this post is to announce that IW will consider making the SGTLS mod a more public project if there is a enough interest from the community to do so.

This however, requires getting at least two people with developers skill sets to commit to the project after which I'm sure a support community would be established by the newly appointed developers.

The purpose of this thread has been derailed quite a bit as its just suppose to be an announcement that IW will consider forming a more public community and give people with the needed skill sets the opportunity to reply the post so they can be contacted about it.

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 04:11 PM

View Postsenseit, on 19 August 2009 - 06:14 PM, said:

Thanks for the response... One last question...

I was trying to get one of my graphic design friends to apply.. Apparently, in the world of graphic design, receiving credit for your work is a big thing. He was wondering if his name will be in the credits for the game if he develops models/maps/etc for the game?

Well that depends. If he wants to work on Stargate:TLS then he can, there is a SourceSDK kit for level design and its just a case of getting to grips with the modelling system in source if you want your own 3D art in-game. We have to emphasise that it is not worth the venture if we don't have a programmer that is skilled enough to fix existing issues first, then pursue other avenues of development. The only thing artists cannot work on outside of an internal development team is new weapons and classes - but this also requires a programmer first, thus, I would hold off on getting artists interested at this time.

Credit can be given however the group decide... A mention next to a line in a changelog or a big sparkly banner with someone's name on it. That can be decided democratically once a group is put together. Individual credit isn't really our thing, as we prefer to think of our developments as a team exercise!

Please note that a qualified programmer must have at least a couple of years C++ experience and any Source engine programming experience is invaluable.

View Postpsychonic, on 19 August 2009 - 07:07 PM, said:

My guess is that play testers will be looked for once a team is together and when they are closer to another release. From what I've heard, yes, it will still be bound by the MGM requirements.

Correct!

View PostSelmak-FR, on 19 August 2009 - 07:19 PM, said:

I'm sorry but anyone can resume the part of conversation because i can't understand it...  :(

We are checking for the remaining interest in a Stargate:TLS development team, specifically looking for programmers who have the talent and time to fix remaining bugs and implement desired community features.

View PostAE 417, on 20 August 2009 - 03:57 PM, said:

Selmak:

The purpose of this post is to announce that IW will consider making the SGTLS mod a more public project if there is a enough interest from the community to do so.

This however, requires getting at least two people with developers skill sets to commit to the project after which I'm sure a support community would be established by the newly appointed developers.

The purpose of this thread has been derailed quite a bit as its just suppose to be an announcement that IW will consider forming a more public community and give people with the needed skill sets the opportunity to reply the post so they can be contacted about it.

Very true. We don't want you guys to feel like we are ignoring requests for development of SGTLS - the problem stems from the lack of a rare breed of developers that are needed to make any more progression. We encourage level design with custom art on the project, and stress that there is a wealth of un-tapped assets that we have included in the build for the very purpose of custom levels. For now, let's focus on the issue at hand; Source Engine Programmer's that are interested in Stargate: The Last Stand.  B)
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#18 Selmak-FR

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 04:46 PM

Ok thanks ! I hope you find a guys who want continue the projet B)

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 11:26 PM

A shame I haven't touched C++ in a while (nor have any Source experience).  If TLS had some single player elements, I'd love to lend a hand towards writing. B) I'd like to think that my sci-fi interests, as well as years of online role playing experience, has given me a talent for story writing.
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Posted 21 August 2009 - 11:03 PM

TLS has loads of pottential. Gamemodes, scenarios, locations, classes , races, ... the list goes on.
All that is needed are the people with the right skills and that have a soft spot in their hart for the show(The soft spot isn't a must but it sure helps for the motivation B))




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